Electric Windows Don't Rise After Door Lock Problem!

[Kevinb]

Hi everyone,

 

Got a real wierd one here. Any suggestions would be greatly received before I have to start tearing open the door innards...

 

Over the last week the drivers door lock has felt a little stiff so I was about to oil it to loosen it a bit. However, today it suddenly "gave" as I tried locking it, followed by a the ominous sound of metal falling through the inside of the door.... Without thinking, I tried unlocking the door and the windows wound down. Upon testing them straight away using the interior controls, no windows rose. In desperation, I tried the passenger door which thankfully did raise them.

 

So, it currently stands at: - 

The drivers door lock doesn't work, spins but isn't loose, and the door handle works fine. Any ideas anyone? I was thinking the locking mechanism has broken away from the barrel.

Also, the only way to raise the windows (all the interior switches work fine when lowering the windows) is to hold either the passenger side door or the boot locks on "lock" for long enough to close them. The electrics certainly seem to be working or I wouldn't be able to lower them, surely?

 

Could the front drivers door lock have some kind of control of the eletric window system? Is there any electronic diagnostics I can run? Is there a reset mechanism?

 

Many thanks for anyone's help, I'd really appreciate it.

 

Kevin

Edited November 2, 2013 by Kevinb

[gregers]

think the only way your going to answer these questions is to take the door card off and see whats happened.

if its the lock then ebay do a repair kit.

 

it might be that the arm has come adrift from the handle/lock and maybe jamming the window?

 

lots of ??? im afraid its a case of having a looksie.

[bigdave982]

Id guess door locked is fubared , but the global opening closing bit of the lock aint

[Kevinb]

Gents,

 

Cheers for both your comments gents. The odd thing is that none of the windows work properly, not just the driver's door. They all lower just fine, but none raise. It's almost as if the commands all go through the driver's door, I can't find any logical reason for this though. My dread feeling is that it's something central that's all *&^%ed up. Not a good thought...

 

Door card off job definitely for sure. On a related question, is sourcing the door insulation foam easy? Or what would the alternative be? I've always gotten by with being extremely delicate with getting the foam lining  off and reusing it, or having it lucky and it being easy to take off.

 

Any recommendations?

 

K

[Kevinb]

Everyone,

 

Right, had a chat with a local auto electrical specialist in Swindon (can I mention them by name?). They advised the paddle has probably broken off in the lock console, and it jammed in the "unlock" setting. This means the door won't lock and and the windows are permanently set to "lower" even if they aren't actually lowering. They also reckoned the door handle can be removed and refitted without removing the door card.

 

Okay, removed the door handle without a problem and found the cause of the issue. The Lock cylinder components (5 in total from what I can see) are mostly in place but bits have broken off and don't work, and basically it fell apart as I removed it; so it's a replacement job. Been recommended to speak with the local VW dealership instead of Ford for some reason(?). Also told to not get the eBay bits as they are not good apparently.

 

Checked the locking console inside. Yep 10/10 to the company, the inside lock was set to open (or at least almost) and as soon as I set it to vertical all the windows started working fine!!!

 

Last problem then, despite what the auto specialist reckoned, it's basically impossible to refit the blasted handle to the door and catch the opening arm without guiding it from inside the door! If anyone can recommend anything to do this though that would be great,

 

Cheers everyone,

 

Kevin